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Из национальной фотоколлекции; согласно подписи - октябрь 1948-го, ранее принадлежавшее организации Эцель вооружение "призывается" в АОИ. Среди прочего - два (слева и внизу) итальянских станковых пулемёта Fiat-Revelli Modello 1935. До сих пор они мне в наших краях не попадались...

Date: 2019-07-05 05:22 am (UTC)
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Date: 2019-07-05 07:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bukvoed.livejournal.com
Фиат - это не всегда автомобиль. :)

Date: 2019-07-05 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lj-frank-bot.livejournal.com
Жаль, что так вышло

Date: 2019-07-05 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] borianm.livejournal.com
А я вроде видел где-то....

Date: 2019-07-05 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bukvoed.livejournal.com
Вот теперь и я увидел.

Date: 2019-07-07 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yevgenit.livejournal.com
Фотография действительно 1948?
Кладка стен в стиле 70-ых.

Date: 2019-07-07 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bukvoed.livejournal.com
Точно не скажу, но судя по вооружению это явно не 70-е.

Date: 2019-09-26 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bojan79.livejournal.com
In 1948. (July or August) Yugoslavia sent to Israel:
- "more than 10000 rifles in the non-standard calibers (6.5 and 7.7mm - Carcanos and Lee-Enfields)
- "about 500 9mm SMGs" - no idea which ones
- "about 500 light machinegun in 7.5 and 7.7mm caliber" - MAC 24/29 and Bren
- "40 Schwarzlose machineguns and 150 tripods for it, also a spare parts for repairing damaged ones"
- "30 machineguns of the different types and non-standard caliber - 6.5mm, 7.5mm, 8mm" - this is one of the probable source of Fiats.
- "large amount of 6.5mm, 7.5 and 7.7mm ammo"
- Large amount of Italian hand grenades

This is just from a single document.

PS. It is also known that 10 Hotchkiss H-35 tanks were also sent, but it is not clear when.
Edited Date: 2019-09-26 07:14 pm (UTC)

Date: 2019-09-28 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bukvoed.livejournal.com
Thanks !
10 Hotchkiss arrived to Israel in June 1948, but AFAIK they were bought from France.

Date: 2019-10-02 11:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bojan79.livejournal.com
B. Dimitrijević, "Od Staljina do Atlantskog pakta" ("From Stalin to a NATO"), page 102–104. is a source for a Hotchkiss claim and is based on his work in Yugoslav archives.
All shipments were labeled as a "scrap steel/iron".

Date: 2019-10-02 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bukvoed.livejournal.com
Thanks again. I'll try to recheck...

[livejournal.com profile] david_2, [livejournal.com profile] oleggranovsky - can you help ? What is known about the source of these Hotchkiss tanks ?

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